Depression: What Everyone Needs to Know - Jonathan Rottenberg

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  Robbie22
  March 5th, 2023
  

  I read somewhere that the secret to beating depression is to become transexual and get brutally sodomized by gay men.

  Depression: What Everyone Needs to Know - Jonathan Rottenberg
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  caesar963
  March 5th, 2023
  

  

  …just another Saturday night for racist rob, the benefits slob.
  “I read somewhere” - Now, let’s not engage in grotesque exaggeration. Don’t walk before you can crawl, basement bob.

  Depression: What Everyone Needs to Know - Jonathan Rottenberg
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  Robbie22
  March 5th, 2023
  

  Ah asylum ceasar my pet monkey you have returned.
  Ate any good books lately ?
  Can you carry on blathering your nonsense and hatred to me, it’s so entertaining. Have you learned any new silly insults to hurl at me ?

  Depression: What Everyone Needs to Know - Jonathan Rottenberg
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  caesar963
  March 5th, 2023
  

  Raus, racist rob! Why do you hate black people so much & consistently use the most toxic racist slurs to describe them, basement bob? What’s that really all about? What brings you to a book site? What are the works of history, philosophy, literature or science which had a truly formative influence upon you? Which shaped your thought in the most beneficial (no, not “benefits”) manner? Just to discover more about the racist’s inner bigot.

  That does sound like a particularly torrid schedule for your Saturday night. Doubtless topped off with the filming of yet another scheisse video, as is your wont.
  No society ought to continue to wastefully, financially support such ignorant racism. That’s actually a permanently sedentary argument against welfare. You shouldn’t aspire to be the Saddo Hussein of economically beleaguered Britain.

  Depression: What Everyone Needs to Know - Jonathan Rottenberg
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  Robbie22
  March 5th, 2023
  

  No  society ought to continue to wastefully, financially support such ignorant racism.

  Finally we agree on something racist asylum ceasar !
  So why are you still allowing the Irish society to support you financially with welfare as you are a racist, you hate the English.

  If you want to discover more about the racists inner bigot then look no further than inside your sick, twisted yet shockingly feeble mind. You don’t even know what a job is, nor even grasp the concept of employment, I bet you don’t even know what a woman is.
  Leave the thinking to me, I’m the organ grinder remember, you are just my monkey.

  As for hating black people ? That’s absurd. I don’t hate them at all but I do hate their behaviour, for example going round stabbing each other to death for the prettiest of petty slights such as being disrespected or catch other black drug dealers on their territory.
  That behaviour may be the accepted norm in sub saharan Africa but isn’t acceptable in civil society.
  The biggest danger black men like you face is from other black men, not white people like me.

  Depression: What Everyone Needs to Know - Jonathan Rottenberg
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  caesar963
  March 5th, 2023
  

  So, essentially your considered position is “卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐. And furthermore, 卐卐卐卐卐卐卐卐,” without the merest pause for reason, logic or sanity? Just more of the 卐 same…

  Nothing terribly complex or edifying. It’s certainly not possible to learn from such a one, and that’s the beneficial dynamic which actually draws people to books in the first place. That’s the reason most of the rest of us are here. Which makes your motivation all the more bizarre & curious. I’ve yet to observe you to say anything intelligent, original or useful, for inst. To comment on what you learned from one of the books, their actual content.

  Regardless of the book’s theme, genre or quality, you just release a constant faecal flow of “You’re black! You’re gay! You’ve HIV/AIDs! You’re immigant! (truly sic.)” Aside from anything else, it’s scarcely indicative of healthy mental functioning.

  People don’t really find it pleasant or enlightening to peruse stuff like that, where a person seems to be extremely isolated, and in the process of some species of emotional breakdown. Given that nobody here knows each other, all of that lonely hatred & isolated fear ultimately concerns the subject himself. Spending all your time on that is desperately destructive of self.

  Depression: What Everyone Needs to Know - Jonathan Rottenberg
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  Robbie22
  March 5th, 2023
  

  I’ve no idea why you keep putting friendship windmills in your posts and saying it’s my position.
  I’ve also never heard you say anything intelligent either, it’s all benefits, basement, cretin, racist, homophobe, bigot, innit, Pauline, Jake, rapist, peadophile, ignorant, sex offender, lonely, fearful, isolated, fascist etc, half of your posts towards me are insults and the other half is words connecting them all up.
  Very childish really. Hardly intelligent.
  I’m simply here now for the sole purpose of watching you perform on command against me, its so funny and quite entertaining aswell as an enlightenment into the mind of a far left crazy, I know people like you are insane and believe in incredibly bizarre things like a man come become a woman just by saying so or that the entire third world has a right to come to Britain to live on benefits but I’d like to hear your justification for why you believe things like that. I know you will never give me that because there is none and you will never give up your position no matter how much common sense facts i provide to prove your beliefs are wrong.

  Depression: What Everyone Needs to Know - Jonathan Rottenberg
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  caesar963
  March 5th, 2023
  

  And your bigoted, angry reaction to critique is always, “You’re black! You’re gay!” These are manifestly the greatest insults of which you can conceive. So anyone who condemns your virulent, obnoxious, hysterical hatred must be framed as the very worst things you can think to be, namely black & gay (for some reason).

  Also, your refs to black people, associating them constantly with HIV/AIDs, is disturbingly reminiscent of the ethnic “disease” imagery habitually deployed in nazi propaganda. You may or may not be aware of this historical tradition which you are clearly operating within, but it would be truly remarkable if this an instinctive move on your part.

  In addition, your initial posture was to expediently & mendaciously claim not to be a racist bigot at all. How can anything you now assert have the remotest credibility, after you have so thoroughly revealed your true self?

  Even such manifestly ill-educated types ought to realise that there is nothing intrinsically bad or shameful about being black. So, to scream “You’re black!” at people is not the killer insult that you seem to think it is.

  However, constantly using racial slurs - such as the “N” word - which you have repeatedly done, is beyond the pale, and a lot more serious than you imagine it to be. We have users of the site who are black, and they should not have to read that - on a book site, of all places. Truly, society ought not be compelled to continue to wastefully, financially support such ignorant racism; characters who so hatefully use the worst racist slurs in the language.

  Depression: What Everyone Needs to Know - Jonathan Rottenberg
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  Robbie22
  March 5th, 2023
  

  Pointing out known facts not something I consider racist. Blacks and homosexuals DO have much higher prevelence of HIV infection, that’s not bigoted to point that out.
  I’m racist only to people who are racist to me, if I’m a racist then so are you.
  Nothing you say has any credibility whatsoever as you have never said anything bar childish insults.
  I have never screamed ‘your black’ at anyone ever, that’s all just in your imagination.
  As for that n word I will use it against someone if someone uses hateful language towards me which so far that’s all I’ve had from you, don’t want to be insulted ? Don’t insult me then.
  We have white British users on this site and they shouldn’t have to hear you spew your Vile hatred at me yet you believe the vitriolic, disgraceful and disgusting slurs you have used against me are just fine, but I’m not allowed to use equally Vile language towards you ? How does that work ? No, you want to be obnoxious yet get all upset when I’m obnoxious right back at you, what a fragile snow flake.

  Finally yes I absolutely agree with you that society shouldn’t be compelled to financially support such ignorant racism and hatred, so why are you still being financially supported by society ?
  We should also cut off any wasteful financial support to all those who hate Britain and the British - which is racist - which would be the vast majority of leftists, Muslims, and failed asylum seekers like you. Anyone who talks down britain or the British people should be cut off from receiving our money, which of course includes all benefits.
  Totally agree with you there

  Depression: What Everyone Needs to Know - Jonathan Rottenberg
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  caesar963
  March 5th, 2023
  

  Your racism has always been clear, but the vile racist slurs are increasing in frequency & seriousness. But your mindless abuse has been a constant.

  “Blacks homosexuals have much higher prevelence (sic) of HIV infection, not bigoted to point that out” - It is when it is not of relevance to any exchange. It’s a non sequitur. Bigotry is its point & purpose.
  “then so are you” - Where & when?

  “As for that n word I will use it” - Racists use the word. To point out that the person using the word is self-evidently a racist is not an insult. It is merely a statement of essential fact.
  “‘your black’ at anyone ever” - Repeatedly, intended in your mind, as an insult. The question is, why is that automatically opted for as the £most offensive insult?”
  The “Vile language” you have used since the very beginning, so it is not a consequence of anything. Take responsibility for your own actions & choices.
  “white British users” - Relevance? What equivalence is being drawn here?

  Pointing out that we have black users of the site who will encounter you screaming (in all caps) what is considered by them (& many others) to be the worst insult in the language is about having tact, rather than being fragile. Know the difference.

  On the benefits, the reason I know you’re on benefits is because you actually told me. And you blamed non-white people because you failed to work. Then you voted for Brexit because you feared the “millions and millions…millions of non whites.” I don’t mock people who are legitimately on benefits, indeed I support the humane intentions of many of the programmes. But you don’t seem to be a legitimate case. As for Brexit, it has been a corresponding economic advantage for us in Ireland, as many companies relocated here to avail of the advantages of remaining within the EU.

  Depression: What Everyone Needs to Know - Jonathan Rottenberg
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  Robbie22
  March 5th, 2023
  

  Ahh we’ve been here before, it’s like a rerun where you attempt to twist my words, it didn’t work then and it won’t work now boy.
  Saying that about blacks, gays and AIDS Is true AND relevant because you just brought it up before I said anything.
  I’ve repeatedly told you I work and recieve no welfare whatsoever yet you insist I am and claiming benefits and that I’ve told you, that’s a lie.
  If you don’t remember saying racist things about the British then that just proves how ingrained your racism is, you don’t even know you are doing it. Saying the British shout at foreigners is one example.
  If you call me a rapist, sex offender and peadophile I will use ANY word I deem suitably offensive and in that instance calling you the n word is absolutely justified and much more on top so don’t try and claim the moral high ground. Non peadiphiles, non rapists and non sex offenders use this site and would find your language accusing me of that utterly disgusting.

  I have clearly outlined why I voted brexit and will do so again to correct your blatant lie that I’m scared of millions and millions of non whites, which is absurd. I voted brexit purely for economical reasons, ie for us to take back positions in our local workforce due to mass uncontrolled freedom of movement of low skilled labour from Eastern Europeans, who are ALL White and who were taking all the locals jobs and voting leave was the only way to stop it, I had absolutely no choice unless I wanted to continued to live in poverty with very little work with appaling pay and conditions. That’s why. You can stop lying now, it just reduces your credibility even further.
  I do not mock people on benefits who need them, I mock those who have made welfare dependency their lifestyle choice and expect a free ride at the taxpayers expense, people like you and fake refugees from such war torn nations as Albania and France. Besides those people would be far better off staying within the utopia of the EU, discouraging them from coming to this awful racist island is the humane thing to do, not entice them with lavish hotels, free money, health and legal services as British citizens are starving, freezing and homeless.
  Finally we’ve done the brexit debate. I acknowledged some of what you said is true, I don’t contest that Britain has lost a great deal of business and trade but that doesn’t affect me or you, at least in anyway I’ve noticed but as you pointed out business is moving to Ireland which is a bonus for YOU, so me voting brexit has actually benefited your country and therefore you so what’s your problem ?
  I got what I wanted, and business is relocating to Ireland so things worked out for the best for both of us in the end didn’t it so no need to go over this debate again.

  Depression: What Everyone Needs to Know - Jonathan Rottenberg
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  caesar963
  March 5th, 2023
  

  “I’ve repeatedly told you I work recieve (sic) no welfare” - Your benefits position was the reason you volunteered for voting for Brexit. You sought advice from a local politico (Labour?) & you maintained that they told you your position would never improve with “free movement.” You failed in the work arena, you said, due to the “millions and millions…millions of non whites (your own phrase as well).” You blamed EU membership for your condition (which was the theme given by Leave campaigners). As I said, I do not judge legitimate welfare recipients.

  “blacks, gays and AIDS Is true AND relevant because u brought it up before I said anything” - The question was why did you bring it up to begin with (on Corbyn bk initially) when there was no relevance. And you’ve repeatedly deployed it since without any explanatory context or rationale. These things often reveal more than they conceal.

  “the British shout at foreigners” - That’s what you’ve been going on about?! I explained to you that other Brits complain about this. They say how it embarrasses them whenever they encounter it on holiday. As an Irish person, I’m loathe to intervene in such internal matters. I observe, I don’t judge.

  None of that stuff is comparable to screaming “N…..!” - in all caps - repeatedly on a site which black people frequent because they, at any rate, are actually looking for books. It’s the worst conduct I’ve seen on the site, & fully refutes your initial claim not to be a racist.

  And let’s not forget, you began all the HIV/Aids, racist stuff almost immediately. And I fed the troll, which is always an error. Mea maxima culpa. Merely because I took issue with your racism, that for you automatically meant that any critic of Brexit or you is a refugee, and you then doubled down on the racism - going down to the very depths, as it turned out.

  Again, on credibility, you say were concerned about immigrants who were “Eastern Europeans, who are ALL White” - yet all your most virulent invective has been around attacking black people, whom you say are diseased (as the Germans did of Jews in the 1930s) - and you constantly dehumanise them by comparing them to animals. In addition, your initial posture was that you were “not racist.”
  Credibility?

  Observing that that is all manifestly racist is not an insult. It merely reflects reality.

  Depression: What Everyone Needs to Know - Jonathan Rottenberg
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  Robbie22
  March 6th, 2023
  

  No I did not fail in the work arena, there simply wasn’t any gainful employment because the Eastern Europeans took it all. Brexit put a stop to that and I’ve been employed from just after the vote.

  I’ve explained blacks and gays have disproportionately high HIV infection rates, no more needs to be said on this.

  You said British shout at foreigners and other things which is racist. No more explanation required.

  If you call me a peadophile rapist I will call you a n word. Got it ?

  Already explained the blacks/AIDS thing, I don’t care if you think I’m racist, according to CRT I am irredeemablely racist anyway, all whites are.

  I have not been attacking black people I’ve been attacking YOU because you have been attacking me with far greater insults and accusations of being a peadophike rapist and it just so happens that YOU are black. You are not black people you are a single black person and you began attacking me for voting brexit, which has benefitted you by inferring I was a racist to vote leave which isn’t true I told you my reasons yet you insisted it was due to race, which is absurd. Again its not me who said black people are diseased, you said that. I said black people are disproportionately affected by HIV with is a true non racist fact.

  The more you attempt to twist my words the less credibility you have.

  So, to clarify my position.

  1. I have had a full time local job since just after the brexit vote as the number of low skilled Eastern European migrants rapidly tailed off.
  2. Blacks and gays have disproportionately higher HIV rates, that is a true fact, facts are not bigotry, whatever you try to claim.
  3. Your sneering hatred at the British especially brexit voters has been on full display, which is racist.
  4. Me calling you a n word is extremely mild considering you called me a peadophile rapist.
  5. I have attacked you, not black people, you are black, in retaliation for you attacking me first over my vote.

  That is the reality, not what you have attempted to twist what I say to the point it beres no resemblance to what I originally said. I don’t care if you think I’m racist, I think you are racist.

  I treat people as people treat me, be racist to me, I’ll be racist to you. You are only a young man and obviously havnt learned to take what you like to give.
  Ceasar cries out in pain as he strikes you.

  If there is anything further you are confused about I’ll clarify it for you but I think I’ve been very clear and concise so that wraps that up. I’m sure you simply can’t help attempting to feebly insult me again and that’s fine but do expect to be insulted right back.

  Depression: What Everyone Needs to Know - Jonathan Rottenberg
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  kristoferly
  March 6th, 2023
  

  Interestingly out of date already - the most recent research has finally dispelled the ‘chemical imbalance’ theory of depression and mood disorders. Not that the theory has been disproven because it was never actually proven at all - not even by the pharmaceutical companies who marketed the drugs as ‘fixing’ the theoretical ‘chemical imbalance’. It turns out that the theory had more to do with marketing than the actual evidence. The NHS and WHO have begun to remove all references to the chemical imbalance theory of depression.

  It’s been well know for many years that for the vast majority of cases of mild to medium depression, antidepressants are no more effective than placebos and significantly less effective than an exercise program. This isn’t merely my opinion as it has been demonstrated with randomised controlled trials on several occassions in different countries, different cohorts and over different timeframes. There is also evidence emerging that calls into question the long term effects of the use of antidepressants. The manufacturers own guidelines recommend that their use be limited to around 12 to 16 weeks - instead people have been on them for decades. The most compelling and disturnbing new research has called into doubt the use of antipsychotics. It was often thought that schizophrenia and various psychotic disorders made the sufferer more prone to dementia in later life due to brain shrinkage because of the condition itself. However, now, there are concerns that the brain changes, the brain shrinkage is actually caused by the antipsychotic medications, that an entire cohort of people may be going on to develop brain shrinkage and dementia due to the side effects of the medications they were put on. For many however, the medications were essential to being able to simply live a reasonably normal life, but for many people they are put on drugs that are technically antipsychotics to treat off label conditions such as chronic pain without any understanding or informed consent regarding the long term risks. Not that many of the psychiatrists or GP’s involved have any idea about the risks because this is new research and will take a long time to filter through to the front line of medical practice.

  Depression: What Everyone Needs to Know - Jonathan Rottenberg

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